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70 Points

Wed, Jan 17, 2018 12:37 AM

Mini implants for lower denture?

I am 35 and have full upper and lower dentures. It has been 2 Years for the upper teeth and 1 year for the lower. I have never been able to eat with my dentures. I’m considering getting 4 mini implants to support my lower denture. These implants will only be placed in the front. I am wondering if anyone has any experience with how much support that will give and if adhesive will still be needed for the back part of denture? I can currently wear my top for cosmetic appearance but cannot eat. I have tried many adhesives and find they do not keep food out or will hurt to remove, at times the adhesive causes a burning feeling...
Any advice on if mini implant stabilizers will still require use of adhesives?

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87 Messages

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2.6K Points

3 years ago

Mini implants do eliminate the need for adhesives. You just have to make sure the the denture is fitting properly. I would suggest having the denture relined first so you know it is sitting on the tissure. If it isnt then the denture could "bounce" and potentially cause the implants to fail. Having 4 placed is a good idea as it acts like table legs and gives the denture stability. Have two place in the front and the other two back around your first premolar(if possible). Good luck

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19.7K Points

There  has been more research on full  implants as opposed to mini implants

Find out how much more  doing this would be using full  size implants as opposed   to the mini and  then make a more informed decision

Keep us posted on your progress
Barbara

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334 Points

3 years ago

I have the same problem. Let me know if it works

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4.1K Points

3 years ago

Since you’re only 35 I would do it right away you wait too long you lose too much job bone and then you won’t be able to do it I do it as fast as you could you’ll never be sorry probably

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Gem Boyd

Consider getting a snap on lower denture with 2 or  imlants and that shoud be less expensive

If you have a college dental clinic near you go there and price it out as they are usually very good and less expensive

Barbara

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680 Points

3 years ago

Wow my story is the same I can not eat I live on soup,sweet potatoes, and protein drinks . They won’t do mini implants they want me to have the full implant wand high is $$$$

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Go to a few other dentists and get some free consultations and find out if they all agree that
mini implants will not work for you
At least get bottom implants as people have the most trouble with the lower dentures as they are not as stable as the uppers

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Hi  Sharon C Hazelet-Torfs
Lower dentures can be secured by 2 or 3 regular implants
The denture is clipped on to them

They are very secure and much less expensive then all implants
You do not need adhesives

Try a dental college if you want to keep he cost down
Consider having the work done in Mexico if you want
to keep the cost down

We have a Mexico blog on this site.  Take a look at it

Its more expensive but its a quality of life issue
Just pretend you are financing a car

Barbara

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2.6K Points

3 years ago

Locator(full) implants are the "go to" implant. Mini implant are a cheaper alternative but are much thinner and have a higher risk of breaking. That's why I mentioned having the denture relined first. They need to make sure the bite is correct as well. Mini implants are better then no implants. Lower dentures are considered a "floating" denture so anything that will anchor it is better then nothing

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120 Points

My dental surgeon sat down with my wife and I to explain the procedure and let us know the alternatives. He started out strong about the implants will make the dentures almost undetectable and also much more natural to use. I found myself perking up a little until he told me they would be 83 thousand dollars (a good 60 thousand over my price range.) But I absolutely think if money in no object go for the implants. They will make the whole process take a lot longer because of all the separate surgeries involved in doing the implants and then you have to wait months on them to make sure they are solid. PS-lower implants by themselves will really make things better for you. You should go for it.  My surgeon recommended like 3 lower implants one on eack side and one in the front to keep them from rocking.

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$83,000 is the highest price I have ever heard. American dollars? Where do you live that your local surgeon is that much? I’m getting the whole package with extractions under IV sedation and bone grafts and 11 implants to support full dentures and it’s significantly less that that. I’m only partially through the process though so I can’t yet comment on how I feel about the actual dentures yet. It’s a never ending wait.

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I had the entire procedure done and i am so so happy with it and  am sure you will be also
I had my first implant done about 30 years ago.  Would you believe it??  That one is still there.  I now have all implants
It's the best money I ever spent  They feel great and they look great

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888 Points

3 years ago

I have also been considering mini-implants for my bottom denture...does anyone have an average cost per implant on the mini's?

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152 Points

I have been researching this since I got my temps a month ago..cost is roughly 500 per mini..most people only need 2 or three.. I am going to discuss with my dentist ..cost would have been cheaper than buying two sets of dentures, temp and permanent s...save on relines , glues and extra dental visits..

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Hi Betty
Sounds like a plan to me.  Lower dentures usually just do not work as we all know.
Dentists should stop selling them to people.

Some  Dental colleges charge $6,700 for a lower denture secured by 2 full implants.
Have you researched Dental schools in your area???

How does that price  compare to the mini implants along with the denture???

I would be concerned that snapping a denture on to mini implants would cause the mini implant to come loose???   But I don't really know that.    
Mini  implants  are thinner and do not go as deep but speak to your dentist and speak to a few dentists that give free consultations for a professional opinion.  
Of course you could also research going to Costa Rico or Mexico or Budapest or a Dental college

You are doing all the right things here.  Good for you.  Please let us and this Blog know  what you find out
Good luck
Barbara
 

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Greets,
I did a good bit of research on this some years back but was always too busy to get it done. As a retired doctor myself I spoke with a couple of colleagues and learned that the mini implants are thinner and do not go as deep into the jaw.  This could be an issue if you do not have a good amount of bone to support them (you really need more bone for the mini implants than you need for the full implants, think of how easily wood will fracture with a thin chisel, it makes fractures more common with the mini's).  Also, with the mini implants you want to have the full 4 implants to have the best stability, again, you have to consider the possibility of fracture which is always a risk with any kind of implants, not a great one but one you need to be aware of.  Having 4 implants gives you the most support over the greatest area, kind of like a 4 legged table is more secure than a 3 legged one and forget the 2 legged one, it just lacks stability to the point I would find it dangerous and I do not know if you would find a dentist who would use only two mini implants and would definitely want a second opinion prior to spending the money to have 2 implants used to support a lower.  You have to remember that with implants it feels more like your own teeth and there is always a chance you are going to forget and chew on something harder than you should with implants.

There are so many things to consider.  I am fighting with this problem now due to severe bone loss and the inability for my family dentist to construct an upper which has any support and has to be 'glued in' and a lower which has a little more support (not much) but which will not stay in with ANY of the products I have tried.  The only one I hear a lot of praise for is 'Secure' which I keep wondering if it would work on a patient with a very little ridge to work with.  Does anyone have any experience with bone loss and the use of 'Secure' to hold in a lower plate?

Thank you all for sharing on such a personal topic, the honesty everyone has displayed is wonderful with everyone coming forth sincerely trying to help others. It is so reassuring.  It is not exactly a topic you can just bring-up!

Be well,
Margie Sacc

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19.7K Points

3 years ago

Forget the dentures  You will never be happy or comfortable with them
You can get full implants  in the front to secure a lower denture that will be better  then the mini implants if you can afford it.  It's worth it if you can do it.
Where do you live???  Consider getting pricing in Costa Rica or Mexico or Budapest it might be worth it.  New York has some cheaper implant places
Research the implants on the internet.  Do You have a dental university where you live???  You are too young not to have comfortable teeth.  It is worth it
to finance them if all else fails/  It's a quality of life issue for you

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Please, do not take this the wrong way but I would avoid heading to Mexico for cheaper dental care. My mother in law, who lives in Orange CA, did this to save on the price of implants and wound up with a fractured jaw because their system of licensure will allow any dental practitioner to perform the procedure provided they are licensed in whatever medical back-up they need if there is a general anesthetic in use for the procedure. If there is some kind of a problem you will also find there is no system of 'malpractice' insurance in Mexico as there is here in the US. 
Most dental schools have a clinic which is staffed by licensed dentists who are taking additional training in a dental specialty such as orthodontics, periodontal dentistry, prosthetic dentistry etc., and the charge is based on the 'ability to pay'.  My son had a lot of work done after a motorcycle accident and he was not covered for the cosmetic repairs. He makes an average salary of $40,000 a year and after considering the number of dependants as well as his mortgage he has a $35.00 co-payment regardless of the procedures which are done at each visit.  I'm sure the particulars vary with every program, however, if you live in the Delaware Valley where there are more medical schools than you can shake a stick at I'm certain you will be able to find what you need. Cooper Hospital in Camden also has 'Cam-Care' which is incredible with the number of services available for little to no cost. Cross the bridge int PA and you just have to pick up the phone to see which school offers what.  Just as almost all hospitals have charity care for patients who do not make above a certain income limit there is the same kind of care provided by doctors and dentists.  It is sad that this information is not more available to the public. Many people never knew about it until someone who was in the program shared the information or they knew a doctor or dentist who had been involved in one of the programs. It is worth checking out.

Again, Be well,
Margie Sacc

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992 Points

3 years ago

I’m in exactly the same boat. But I’m afraid to do the implants. I know too many people who have later on gotten infections around the implants, had to have them cleaned/scraped. With my dental phobia, I just can’t risk that. I will go on using the best adhesive I can get, when eating out, Eating small bites, chewing on both sides at the same time (learned that, here on the forum) and do the best I can. I hate having dentures.

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19.7K Points

3 years ago

If yu hate dentures you are really going to hate them when you ave to deal with them
I never had any trouble with implants and I know many people who have them and none of them have had a problem.  You just have to be careful and go to some one who is well trained in implants.  They are getting better and better
You can just try over dentures where the dentures are anchored to 4 imlants
Try a Dental University

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130 Points

Hi Barbara,
Please remember that you must consider the oral health and structure of the bone and supporting tissue on an individual basis before you can say that everyone will do better with implants. Thankfully, you did not have an issue with your implants, however, this probably means you had a good dental surgeon who knew what he was doing when he examined you to see if you were eligible for implants in the first place. I have recently found out I am not eligible for implants due to an abusive ex-husband who did a lot of bone damage to the lower jaw when he punched me in the face when I was 27 years old.  That is when the problems with dentures began for me.  I was able to successfully wear dentures for 25 years but then had to deal with problems relating to bone loss.  These problems can also occur to patients with implants where the bone around the implants begins to deteriorate.  Unfortunately, some things are part of the aging process and will occur to all of us as we age.  With women, many of these issues do not appear until after menopause when many bone density issues start to appear. 
Stay away from Mexican providers as their licensure is not the same as in the US and in some areas medical malpractice is non-existent so if there IS a problem and you need expensive reconstruction then you are out of luck.  Your suggestion to find a dental school is an excellent one as the dentists there are all licensed dentists who are furthering their education in a dental specialty and all are supervised by a resident who has already completed his training. My son has had a lot of work done at one of the dental schools in PA after a motorcycle accident after learning they would not cover any of the cosmetic restorations he needed. 
The best thing you can have on your side is a good dentist who can point you in the right direction if you have a problem. I would question any dentist who did not do his best for a patient with an issue with a denture which he was unable to solve. At the level of family dentistry, he will simply not have the experience a prosthodontist will have with difficult cases which are not candidates for dental implants. 
My apologies for going on so long. It just really hits home hearing so many people having to face the same problems I am living with every day as well.
Be well all,
Margie Sacc

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5.2K Points

3 years ago

What's the difference between a mini implant and a non mini implant?

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742 Points

Mini implants are smaller than non-Mini implants, so they require less raw material to manufacture.
Healing time is less with mini implants, so fewer office visits are required.