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Sat, Mar 23, 2019 12:02 AM

Adhesive disolving

I drink alot of water daily. Usually about 2pm my bottoms are loose. When I take them out there is no trace of adhesive on them nor on my gums. So does the liquid we drink cause the adhesive to disolve? This happens to the bottoms only,the adhesive is still there on the tops when I take them out .

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2 years ago

I've been using Secure. It is not water soluble.

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Nancy, if Secure is not water soluble, how do you get the adhesive off the gums, roof of mouth & off the dentures? I'm 2 months out & am still testing different kinds of adhesives.

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Dee, I use the Clean It Wipes an my oalate and gums and it comes right off. 

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2 years ago

What a superb question indeed? Yes after about twelve hours the petroleum or bonding agent starts breaking down " Disintegration putrefaction" Thus about half way through the day the adhesive is disintegrating and oozing out almost in drip. I drink alot of water as well, we are literally digesting small amounts of adhesive throughout the day. I recommend supplementing your diet with wheat grass, aloe vera juice with plant pieces in it and live culture yogurts to clean out your digestion and to regulate your digestion. The good news is the acids in our stomach dissolves and dissipates whatever amount of adhesive we are ingesting slowly throughout the day. Until one decides to either get a reline or implants this is our reality and I am getting both a reline next week and the top implant soon, i am waiting on the bottom implant or screws that is to heal so i can get my attachment. Then quite possibly I will do the top depending on if the reline creates and causes suction, adhesion, bonding without the need for adhesion. Because removing the crap at the end of the day is a 20, 25 minute ordeal for the top denture that is painstakingly annoying...... 

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2 years ago

I just purchased a box of sea bond for the tops I am not certain if it is any better per the cleaning at the end of the day but I am willing to try something. Taking my top denture out at night looks like a frightening scary movie scene of a frothing freak secreting something strange HAHA LOL

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2 years ago

Any thoughts on cushion grip??? I use secure and I agree with you.

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2 years ago

I hear by all accounts that Cushion Grip as pricey as it is is indeed a non dental appointment reline at around 30.00 dollars. It is a soft plastic cushion or better yet rubber type of reline. I have never used it or purchased it myself as I am getting a soft reline from my dentist which should last two years effectively however cushion grip is a four day application that acts as a soft reline thus causing adhesion. Ebay seems to be the best place to find it at a 20 dollar price.

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2 years ago

Somebody do a experiment for me who has time during the day, try honey as an adhesive and tell me how long it last, i hear it could last a few hours put it on thick.... I also hear peanut butter can last four hours. Perhaps we can all create our own adhesive that cleans up effectively at the end of the day and holds our dentures in place throughout the day. I just don't have the time to test anything right now but if I did I would try contacting a laboratory never the less since dentures have been in existence for 60 years or more I am not certain why mouth wash companies haven't created a denture mouthwash that dissolves or breaks up the denture glue by now.... Its an untapped market. What works for me is three things 1. Mixing a bottle of peroxide with Listerine and a dry gritty towel is what I use to get the glue out of my mouth at the end of the day and its rather effective.

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That sounds amazing!!! Can't experiment today(going out) but definetly will try next week when home all day!!!!!!!!! Would be great if it worked. Honey and/or peanut butter? Aminadav~~ You are very knowledgeble in this subject~~please keep posting.

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I'll keep trying. I tried the Sea Bond for the top and it was a waste of money I see, it didn't hold the top denture in place at all, so I now have a new wasted box and wasted money. Sea bond does not work...........

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I tried a bunch too and have had the best result with Secure.

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Ok so tell me Nancy are you using the Secure adhesive or pads? So I can get me some of whatever you are using this week. On this coming Wednesday I am getting a reline at the dentist, i hope its effective enough that I won't need any adhesive that would be ideal. My brother inlaw has had his dentures i think three years and have never had to use any adhesives or strips or pads whatsoever which I contend as a perfect denture fit from a perfect impression. I however have not had that kind of success with mines. I have had a adjustment and will have my reline next week. However without the glue my dentures will not stay in on their own accord.

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Adhesive.

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2 years ago

Think of what makes adhesives effective they create a wax, grease seal that bonds to the denture and to the palate or roof of our mouths holding it until that seal is broken. If we could create or use something as that seal that bonds the two together we would ideally have a adhesion and adhesive. However our problem stems from the central ingredients within the glue itself that starts out as a wax seal that bonds the two and becomes a stringy glue after our saliva mixes with it, turning it from the pink greasy wax seal to a whitish glue gun type of sticky greasy substance.

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2 years ago

Adhesive

To make a standard adhesive at home, collect the following items: karaya gum power from your local health food store, tragacanth gum powder from the cake decorating supplies at your local craft store, and peppermint oil. Measure 1 oz. of karaya gum powder into a small bowl. Add 3 oz. of tragacanth powder. Stir until the two are well blended and then transfer to a small bottle. Add 30 drops of peppermint oil. Place the cap on the bottle and shake vigorously for one minute or until the oil and powders are thoroughly mixed. Sprinkle 1⁄4 teaspoon of the gum blend across the surface of the denture and insert into the mouth. Hold firmly in place for 30 seconds and release. The gums should bond lightly with the exposed tissues of the mouth, holding the dentures in place for up to 12 hours.

Gum

For a less traditional take on the gum adhesive, try making a denture bonding agent from standard-issue bubble gum. The ingredients are easier to find and the flavor can be a bit more pleasant. Begin by placing 1/3 cup of unwrapped gum pieces into a microwave-safe bowl. Microwave the gum for one minute on full power. Mix well with a wooden dowel rod or wooden stick, until the gum is thoroughly blended. Measure 1⁄4 cup of confectioner sugar onto a sheet of waxed paper. Push the sugar into a pile and use your fingers to create a small well in the center. Transfer the melted gum to the well in the sugar. Use your fingers to move the sugar from the sides to the top, covering the gum completely. Then roll and press the gum, manipulating it until all of the sugar has been incorporated. The gum mixture will be stiff, but not overly sticky. Pull off a piece of gum about the size of a standard marble. Wipe the inside surface of the denture with a moist cloth and then stretch the gum to fit across it, pressing the edges of the gum into the curvature of the mouthpiece. Insert the denture and bite down, pressing it into place. This should hold your dentures in position for up to four hours. Any leftover gum should be wrapped in plastic cling film. It can be safely stored at room temperature for up to four weeks.

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2 years ago

If anyone has time for the gum adhesive let me know how it works I am interested 

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Me too

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How hard is it to get off dentures though? And what do you use?

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Not hard. By end of the day, they were ready to come out. Just rinsed with warm salt water.

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Warm salt water that's interesting, mines because I am waiting to get my reline I tend to need abit more adhesive so removal of what remains behind is a task

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Those Clean-It Wipes also really work, at least on the Secure.