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Hi I had my upper teeth pulled in late Oct immediate permanent denture placed numerous trips back to DDS for adjustments and gagging issues. Which were resolved. Had to do realign at 5 mos because. Of greatly shrunk gums
DDS did relight in his office lab. Since then after wearing my teeth 3-4 hours each day burning sensation in center of upper over middle 4 teeth. If teeth are removed burning disappears if I leave them in the burning gets unbearable . The gum is sore but no ulceration noted. Could it be the product used to reline the teeth. I'm miserable. I haven't been able to bite anything in the front since I got them relined. They fit snuggly. I'd love a salad none for six monthsHELP

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3 years ago

Hi Ellie, It is possible that you're having a reaction the Reline material. I think many DDS offices use Coesoft  for their relines. At a Denture Clinic we only have you chairside for impressions then the Reline is done for most of the business day. We use stronger materials then a DDS would. Most of the time it's because they are not educated in that "department" or have the equipment. Salad is a big one that people find difficulty with. You have to cut it much smaller and try and chew at the same time on both sides of your mouth. A tough one.  Oh I just read back and noticed you said he did it in his lab. Do you know how long he took to do the Reline?

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One hour while I waited! He told me to get seabond which I tried burning is decreased but hold on denture is only fair'. He says the burning may to caused by his curing material so he wants to send it out to the lab that made the teeth to check it out. I think he's trying to give me the brush off but for $4000 dollars that is not going to happen There is a gummy liner that is supposed to great but I don't know where to get it or if is good. I will take any suggestions you might have I'm miserable HELP

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Awwwe Ellie I do really hope things get better. He has a good point that it may be the material they use. In Dental offices the Reline material is different as I mentioned above and in a Clinic or a Lab it would take almost one business day to do the Reline as their is a lot of work involved and waiting for the material to set/cure. My suggestion to you is if you can't get to a Denture Clinic to see a Denturist that can help you then have your Dentist send it to his Lab to get done. I would tell him he should have the Reline done at the Lab at no extra cost. Good luck and keep me posted!!! I hope it works.

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I forgot to mention Ellie that the Lab will probably do a better job on the Reline. Especially because they use better materials. I wish you had your reline done at 6mths after e-day. Primarily most of the healing of gums takes 6mths to a yr. For a full upper you shouldn't really need to use "glue" except for steak or corn days. If he's going to send it to the Lab at no extra cost to you try and make it around your 6mth mark. Just make up something that you can't make it until then. Hopefully he will take a good impression. Make sure he puts his finger all along the inside of your mouth so that none of your skin is sticking in the impression tray. Another thing is we all have what's called maxillary tuberosities. That's the back on your right and left side of your mouth on the upper. It's where your gums end. Like where your last teeth were. That should be covered as well. I've seen people walk in our place and that part is missing which is one reason they don't have suction. I'll google and try and post a pic.

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Thank you for your comments . I had to have most of the palate removed because of severe gagging. I still have good suction but I have to use some fixaditive because the denture looks like a bottom denture. I don't think the DDS was planning on doing an impression, he's looking for a curing issue but I think that's a great idea it is just 6 months.
How do I convince him to do an impression.

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In order to do a Reline they need to take impressions. That's the 1st step. They take an impression while you're wearing the denture. I posted a thread on here on most of the process done at a Denture Clinic. I'll try and find it and post it on here so you can see. That's the only way you know what your gums look like now and compare to the denture to reconstruct the inside of the denture to fit what looks like your mouth now.

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3 years ago

So Josie...  what do you know or your Denturist know about this product?

www.novusliner.com

The way they're marketing it, Novus Liner sounds like the best thing since sliced bread!

Seems you may need special equipment to cure it after impressions are made?

NOVUS®— The Most Comfortable Soft Denture Liner in the WorldLong-term performance. Functional fit. Excellent patient comfort.

Based on Polyphosphazene (PNF®) Technology, which was originally used for military and aerospace programs, the NOVUS® Soft Denture Liner provides the best denture wearing experience for the patient. With NOVUS® you can expect:

Laboratory-Cured Denture Liner
  • Shock absorption during chewing (more patient comfort with fewer adjustments)
  • No porosity leading to resistance to surface and subsurface fungal growth (less fouling, odor, or stain)
  • Low surface tension with excellent wetting
  • Easy adjustment and polishing with rotary instruments
  • Engagement of deep anatomical undercuts
  • Moldable around overdenture abutments or implant heads and bars to provide denture retention, stability, and support
  • Allow denture movement towards the abutments and tissue
  • Excellent bonding to acrylic denture bases
  • X-ray opacity (can be identified if parts of the denture are swallowed or inhaled)
  • Unlimited shelf life of the single-component patty if refrigerated
  • Uses standard dental laboratory compression-molding processing steps
For the Denture Patient

With NOVUS® here’s what you can expect:

  • Less or no “pop-off” while chewing
  • Greater comfort, confidence
  • Permanent liner, no need to replace every six months
  • Adjustments can be made quickly–right in your dentist office
  • Resists fungal growth
  • Does not diminish the denture strength
  • Uses less pastes / glues / adhesives

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Hey Ted, I'm going to try and get a read on this today. The material we use is called Molloplast and it's for permanent soft lining. It's something that is made when the denture is being made in the beginning or if someone in the future notices their gums are very sensitive and want to add it- a lot more work to do it this way. It's pretty pricey to have it done. We hardly get anyone asking for it. Most people we've fabricated new teeth for don't seem interested and get used to the feel of the denture against their gums. From what I've read so far on that site it's not saying much on a techy aspect. The info it does provide we already know. I'm not sure if registry is only for professionals but I'm going to try and register and see if I can get more info for you. :) I'm also going to check online with our suppliers and see if it's available. Usually I can find out some scoop and I'll let you know if it's "BS" or not.

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If you look on the bottom right of the screen under recent posts you will see Molloplast Vs Novus. Well that video is all fine and dandy but now I wonder if it doesn't  bounce then how soft is it really to the touch? Some more home work for me. :)

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I could be in to bouncing my dentures off my counter and into my mouth.  LOL  
Personally I like a softer feel.  I use Cushion Correct and am 3 weeks into using DenSureFit (Silicone DIY Liner) and love it!

I also think this stuff sounds cool:
https://tcsdentalinc.com/
What rule says Dentures have to be HARD ACRYLIC like my Grandma wore 50 years ago and why haven't "advanced materials" found their way into the world of dentures faster?  BTW that's a rhetorical question!

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Haha! You're funny. I know EH? ;) Not sure why materials aren't as advanced as many other things. I got a traffic jam going on in the Clinic right now so I'll get back to you in a bit. :)

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That was a rhetorical question.  The answer is Money BTW.
If there's money to be made, the free market find a way and will to do it.

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3 years ago

Hey Ellie! How did things go?????

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Thank you for asking . I sent you a long message earlier today but I must have forgotten to send it. I went to the specialist yest and he spent about 45 min with my Husband and I. He said gently the teeth really weren't relined properly which I knew and that the irritations in my mouth were from the reclining material. He said I can use this denture with 4 implants that my surgeon would have to place. He will remove all the reline material ( thanks for the important info) and will put the dentures in permanently the same day but he will drop them slightly to avoid any further irritation. I must do a CAT scan prior to check sinus etc. I left there pleased, angry been through so that the initial DDS that tried to pull the wool over my eyes with a large upcoming large bill but could have been worse if I needed a new denture too.
I would like to go after the DDS and recoop the reline money but my husband says I've already been through too much and I should let it go.
I will write a review on his practice page when I calm down.

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I'm glad to hear you got some good news. Implants are the best way to go but can be costly. I'm not sure how bad your gag reflex is as we've had several in here with the same issue but seemed to be fine and get used to it once we made it. The end of a denture should be paper thin that it "blends" to your mouth.  Basically like 1mm- I mean the very tip of it. It can also be trimmed shorter to a certain amount before you lose suction to help with the gagging. In your case, I'm not sure if that is possible for you. Not sure if the Dentist didn't know what he was doing and just trimmed it to be like a horse shoe. Having said that if you really want to get implants for your upper to avoid having a palate the more implants the merrier. Usually for an upper 4 is good. There are 2 different types of dentures for implants. "All on 4" which are permanently screwed in. I'm not crazy about that one because if you ever get food under it you can't take it out. Soooooo that means visits to the Dentist for that and cleaning and regular maintenance. "cough cough" $$$$$. 2nd one is an "Implant Retained Denture" which "snaps" on to the implants. It's not screwed in, so I think that's way better because you can look after it yourself and clean it rather then spending money to see the Dentist all the time. They can do that with your upper. Here are the steps that you can take that hopefully can save you money if they allow it.

Once you're ready for implants: This is for an "Implant Retained Denture"= Go to the Oral Surgeon and get the implants placed. That same day I'm not sure who can do it for you but get your upper modified so that it gives some room for those implants. They may just put the implants in and temporarily stitch them up or may put what will look like the top of thumb tacks on top of them for healing time. So now adays they say it takes about 3 mths for implants to heal and bond with your bone. So that's why you need to get the upper modified so you can have your teeth while you're healing. Once you go for your check up after the implants have been placed they will tell you if it's good to go. They will place the locators or abutments (same thing but offices call them differently). Those will look like the pegs that will be sticking out of your gums. Then you can have what we call a "Repair". Get them to take impressions of your mouth. When they pour up your impressions into stone models it will be a replica of your mouth with the implants. They can use that stone model to know where to put holes and the "housings" (they look like little caps) into your denture. That's what is going to snap on to your denture. Can take about half a day to do that. Once that is done you can go back and sit in the chair and they will also put "o-rings" inside of the caps in the denture. There are different colors and they go by weight retention. Example 0lbs, 3lbs, 5lbs and there's a purple one now I think is 7 or 8lbs. Those tiny little buggers will give different retention on how much "weight" your teeth can take. Like a 0lb might be perfect for you or it can be a little weak and you feel you can take your denture out way too easy.  Once they get the right one for you, you are good to go.

 Keep in mind that you may notice after a few days the "o-rings" can be too weak or to strong. No one can determine that ahead of time. Those "o-rings" can wear through time- usually up to a few yrs. We have one woman that comes often because she likes to eat raw potatoes. lol. Anyways but when they are worn you can have them replaced and they're not expensive. We have them for $35 each.   If you go this route and use your existing denture it will be way more affordable then starting a new  one. Sorry I'm babbling again.

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Hi Ellie. Not sure if you had a chance to read my last comment for you. Wondering how you're doing?

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Thanks for asking! I had the 3 D. X-ray for $250. Out of pocket over a week ago. It took exactly One minute. I can't believe what dental care costs.! In order to expedite things ( the misery is now going on almost 8 months) we drove 30 miles in traffic to drop the disc off at the new dentist. We then proceeded to the post office to mail a disc to the oral surgeon who is 60 miles away. We payed for overnight delivery. Today one WEEK later we called the new DDS to see if he has sloken to the oral surgeon so we could proceed to find out he is on vacation all this week and he never spoke to the oral surgeon because the surgeon was on call and vey busy last week. Yes I'm disappointed another week has passed and probably next week will pass also because the specialist is just returning from vacation.
I'm at the point of tears and can only wear the denture if I'm lucky for 1-2 hours a day because of the burning on the palate. Now what?! I guess I just wait and continue to suffer.

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I know! It's pretty crazy but just to give some people an insight because I work at a Denture Clinic I have access to see how much most dental equipment costs. Those 3D machines are like $100 grand! One day we got an email for a promotion for a machine regarding dentures and I said to my boss: Oh look this is on sale for $8995.00.....yea I missed a digit it was on sale for $89, 995!!!! Crazayyyy! Aweeee that's unfortunate. Yea a lot of them are taking their holidays right now or some of them are teaching lectures etc. Hang in there! Get them to remove that material for you while you wait!!!! That's the least the Dentist that put it in there could do. Sheesh he's got to have some compassion. You will have to use adhesive but at least your mouth won't be burning and you can eat and smile.

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3 years ago

Josie this may b a silly question but how do i keep lipstick off my teeth now???? Any ideas? Any1? Lol

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I've never been asked that question!!!! Good question. I haven't worn lipstick in yrs! I can't remember but their used to be tips online or I guess more expensive lipstick??? Hopefully someone on here has some tips. :)

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The new dentist is going to remove the material by the first DDS and he is the one who is on vacation. I am a strong woman but this is really starting to get to me . . I stay on the house most f the time because I have to leave the teeth out., and I dread meals because eating has become a nightmare and I can't look at mush any longer really discouraged. I would like to enjoy some part of the summer but it is moving on by and I am stuck .
Talk about pain and suffering. I'm there.

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I would get the Dentist that put it in to remove it for you. I'd demand it. Well....I have some guts but preaching it is easier than me actually having to do it. Btw...your hubby is so awesome for sticking by you and you folks driving around to get things done.I feel for you. Maybe tomorrow you'll wake up remembering that strong woman you are and phone the original DDS and demand to see them before the week is over so you can at least try and cope until the new DDS is back from holidays. He already told you it was "probably" ugh done incorrectly.  YOU CAN DO IT GIRL! I have faith in you.

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Like you I'm am angry and want the old DDS to take out the toxic junk he put on my denture but my husband won't let me step foot in that office. For fear what will happen next.'
I think he take care of the problem and return my $400. For all my aggrevation. 2 questions: how long does it take to heal from the implants i.e. Pain . Do they use twilight sedation like when I had the teeth pulled? Will it be another 6 months of soft food? The carbs are killing my waistline.

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I think he would take care of the problem as well but sometimes we need to listen to our spouse even when we don't want to. lol. Try and stay positive that you hopefully will have less than a week to go until you see the DDS back from holidays. Implants used to take 6mths to heal. Usually now it's about 3mths. When you get the implants they can modify a bit the inside of the existing denture so you can wear it while your implants are healing. There are many options of sedation when getting implants. Basically up to you if you want to be "knocked" right out or not. If you notice above there's a long comment that I posted. It has the steps on getting implants. I put them there for you as it should be the least costly way to go. We are pretty practical at our Denture Clinic and always provide the best and all options that a person can have. If we can provide an alternative method to a person that's less costly but basically the same service we do. Oh! I just remembered that your new Dentist said you can use the same denture for implants! I like him/her. Not trying to gold dig from you.  Those darn carbs! Gotta love them but wish our waistlines didn't.

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Josie I can't get the info about the steps of the implants!

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 Copy/pasted for you. ;)

I'm glad to hear you got some good news. Implants are the best way to go but can be costly. I'm not sure how bad your gag reflex is as we've had several in here with the same issue but seemed to be fine and get used to it once we made it. The end of a denture should be paper thin that it "blends" to your mouth.  Basically like 1mm- I mean the very tip of it. It can also be trimmed shorter to a certain amount before you lose suction to help with the gagging. In your case, I'm not sure if that is possible for you. Not sure if the Dentist didn't know what he was doing and just trimmed it to be like a horse shoe. Having said that if you really want to get implants for your upper to avoid having a palate the more implants the merrier. Usually for an upper 4 is good. There are 2 different types of dentures for implants. "All on 4" which are permanently screwed in. I'm not crazy about that one because if you ever get food under it you can't take it out. Soooooo that means visits to the Dentist for that and cleaning and regular maintenance. "cough cough" $$$$$. 2nd one is an "Implant Retained Denture" which "snaps" on to the implants. It's not screwed in, so I think that's way better because you can look after it yourself and clean it rather then spending money to see the Dentist all the time. They can do that with your upper. Here are the steps that you can take that hopefully can save you money if they allow it.

Once you're ready for implants: This is for an "Implant Retained Denture"= Go to the Oral Surgeon and get the implants placed. That same day I'm not sure who can do it for you but get your upper modified so that it gives some room for those implants. They may just put the implants in and temporarily stitch them up or may put what will look like the top of thumb tacks on top of them for healing time. So now adays they say it takes about 3 mths for implants to heal and bond with your bone. So that's why you need to get the upper modified so you can have your teeth while you're healing. Once you go for your check up after the implants have been placed they will tell you if it's good to go. They will place the locators or abutments (same thing but offices call them differently). Those will look like the pegs that will be sticking out of your gums. Then you can have what we call a "Repair". Get them to take impressions of your mouth. When they pour up your impressions into stone models it will be a replica of your mouth with the implants. They can use that stone model to know where to put holes and the "housings" (they look like little caps) into your denture. That's what is going to snap on to your denture. Can take about half a day to do that. Once that is done you can go back and sit in the chair and they will also put "o-rings" inside of the caps in the denture. There are different colors and they go by weight retention. Example 0lbs, 3lbs, 5lbs and there's a purple one now I think is 7 or 8lbs. Those tiny little buggers will give different retention on how much "weight" your teeth can take. Like a 0lb might be perfect for you or it can be a little weak and you feel you can take your denture out way too easy.  Once they get the right one for you, you are good to go.

 Keep in mind that you may notice after a few days the "o-rings" can be too weak or to strong. No one can determine that ahead of time. Those "o-rings" can wear through time- usually up to a few yrs. We have one woman that comes often because she likes to eat raw potatoes. lol. Anyways but when they are worn you can have them replaced and they're not expensive. We have them for $35 each.   If you go this route and use your existing denture it will be way more affordable then starting a new  one. Sorry I'm babbling again.

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